By Geremy Chubbuck () Disclaimer: This list is correct to the best of my knowledge, however, I accept absolutely no responsibility for the accuracy of this information or for the consequences and/or damages occurring from any inaccuracies. I have compiled this list for the purposes of sharing information only. This is not intended to be used in any way except for personal entertainment. It is a compilation of both personal information and information submitted from others from the Internet. ALL SERIAL NUMBERS SHOULD BE VERIFIED FROM THE MANUFACTURER PRIOR TO ANY PURCHASE OR ASSEMBLY.
It should be noted that it is a felony to possess a Post-Ban (newly assembled after Sept 13, 1994) assault weapon. If any information presented here is found to be incorrect or you have additional information to contribute, please contact me via E-Mail () and I will update and re-issue the list. Note: All items marked with a single asterisk (*) are taken from. The year/serial numbers under Colt SP series was forwarded to me by an individual whose return address I no longer have. Double asterisk (**) under Bushmaster, a person on the internet e-mailed me that he had a lower that was shipped stripped (thus not a complete rifle) in 1991 from Bushmaster with serial #0327XX - ALWAYS CALL TO VERIFY. Advanced Armaments No information - Apparently machined from bar stock aluminum, lowers are marked as M-15. American Spirit Arms (Formerly 'Sun Valley Traders') ALL lowers are Post-Ban.
Appreciate any feed back on an Eagle Arms EA-15 pre ban, with carry handle, A2 handguard ( A-2 configuration ) and looks to be a 20' barrel in NIB condition. First off there is no such animal as 'pre-ban' anymore for domestic made rifle like the AR, that ended in 04 when the 94 AWB ended, unless. You can buy Eagle arms pre ban with confidence from thousands of sellers who list every day. At GunBroker.com. RARE PRE-BAN Eagle Arms AR-15 EA-15.
Began introduction of lowers and rifles in mid/late 1998. Noted as having good fit & finish. Also, reported to be manufactured by Lewis Machine & Tool. Armalite/Eagle 800-336-0184 Slightly over S/N 30,000 was the Pre-Ban cut-off, call to verify.* (Some Eagle lowers below the 30,000 range were determined to be POST ban by BATF - call to verify) Armalite sells Eagle lowers, but sells factory complete rifles with Armalite lowers.
Bohica Made stainless steel lowers, rumored to have also made AR-15 pistols. Lower marked M16-SA.
This is NOT verifiable info as it came from the Internet. Out of Business. Bushmaster 800-998-SWAT Below L051000 - Assembled Pre-Ban Rifles and some pre-94 lowers.** L051001-L063000 - Mixed Pre-Ban Assembled Rifles and Pre-Sept 94 Lowers (Call to verify) L063001 and Up - Post-Ban Century Arms Lower marked CIA. Sistemas Distribuidos George Coulouris Pdf Printer.
All are Post-Ban. Made with Olympic Arms Receivers under contract. I just wanted to add one item to this sticky.
You often hear about people needing to prove that a receiver was assembled into a gun by the time the AWB went into effect. The problem is that nobody defines what AWB. I'm in CT so its the only AWB that matters on NEShooters.
My motivation was that I had purchased a pre-ban AR lower that had a questionable build date. It was sold as a receiver only but was only sent from the manufacturer a month or so before the CT AWB. So while the receiver was made before the AWB, it could be argued that it was not built into a rifle before the AWB. So I called the CT state firearms licensing group in (I believe) middletown. I spoke with a Trooper (I'll get his name and edit this post, I cant find it right now) and asked him if there was any explicit provision (there is not) about assembly into a gun, or even if there was any generally accepted interpretation that a lower needed to be built up into a gun. He told me flat out NO, if the receiver was built before the drop dead date, it was pre-ban.
There is no caveat about it being built up into a full gun. He then offered for me to get another opinion from his sister, who was also a Trooper. She worked in the anti-gun trafficking group at Hartford Brainerd airport. I called and spoke to her, she also told me there was no requirement that the gun be built by the date of the CT AWB. Hope this is of some value to all of you.
Well, the 1994 Brady Ban expired. So you can in fact get 'new' rifles with bayonet lugs. If you live in the right state. FWIW- the only Pre-94 ban guns that are desirable and worth the time and expense of tracking down are the H-BAR Colt AR-15's. And some variations of the Com-Bloc AK's are desirable in their pre-94 ban versions.
I am not really up to speed on which ones though, WrongRecroom would know though. The big thing about the brady bill was magazine limits. For awhile in the late 90's it was hard to scare up 30 round AR mags. Most gun folks laughed about the bayonet lug thing.
Colt just changed the gas block. A lot of AK's had theirs ground off though.
Download Dragon Island Game For Pc on this page. And the stupid thumb hole stocks were everywhere on AK's for a time. One difference I know of is a pre ban combat rifle will have a bayonet lug. A new one won't.
I have a bayonet lug on my current AR15. I had firearms well before, during and after the AWB. The AWB is gone so todays guns have the same or more than pre bans. Flash suppressors were not allowed during the AWB. The post does not even mention what firearm he is talking about and I am not Psychic.
There were also limits on magazine capacities. I had three Bushmasters during the AWB that I used for various competitions and all I can remember is no flash suppressers or muzzle breaks were allowed.
No bayonet lugs allowed. No collapsible stocks allowed but other than that, no difference. At one time pre-ban Glock magazines were going for $100 each and that was 20 years ago when they cost much less. My pre-ban handguns had 10 round mags. Shotguns were also limited to capacity but oddly enough my Mossberg 590 had a bayonet lug.
Our political smart guys did not know shotguns had bayonet lugs too. The only reason for a pre-ban weapon or mag to be worth a premium is in a place like the United Anti Gun Nation of New Jersey who incorporated the AWB into their gun laws. No handgun mags more than 15 rounds and they still ban the M1 and I think only 20 round mags for ARs. I also believe that you cannot have a bayonet lug, flash protector or muzzle break on post bad ar15's. In most other States pre-wan just means old guns. I collect pre bans. So let me help.
Most ban we think of are the 1994 AWB. The one that limited combat styling. For most of thouse guns in most place the price does not happen there is no difference between a 20 year old Eagle arms then a new Colt. In MA it is worth it as they are the last state to force pre 94 guns if you want folding stocks etc. For most of us no it does not matter However there are many others bans to bear in mind. Banned the import of small handguns an Full auto guns among others.
Guns that are called pre 68 would be PPK ( imported after that were PPK/S and PP ) most of the small Bretta and browning pocket guns are all pre 68. Also for rifles you have pre 68 guns this would the Ceteme the HK41 and the org G FAL. These were all full auto ready guns easily moddy to full auto with the right trigger groups or in the case of the FAL just pushing hard on the safty. Again the 68 banned this.
This is the why the HK91 dont have a push pin lower Also to add pre 1968 it legal to have no serial numbers on guns and in case no import marks etc. So you will see a lot of old time Sears etc guns that have no markings or serial numbers and a number of handguns the same way Then you have the 1982 ban which banned the sale of 'Open bolt guns ' There are a lot of them. The old Remgtion 22lr and a lot of French and such 22lr rifles. The KG9 and org MAC10 pistols and such. They were demed to be full autto guns even though they were semi auto only. You own a pre 1982 MAC10 then you are just owing a pistol make post 1982 mac into a open gun even if semi you have made a Machian gun Next we have 1986 Full auto ban which we can skip over The next big one for semi auto was the 1989 one.
In 1989 a EO was signed banning the sale of non sporting rifles into the USA.This was due in part to Patrick Purdy who shot up a school with a China com AK47S. This act banned import of guns with folding stock etc etc etc. Thus a pre 1989 rifle will go for the big bucks. A lot of countries stopped import at this point. Others however solider on at first people like Springfield Armory would imported the guns in ban state and then just put the org parts back on. Them and others lead to 922r act which stated you needed USA parts in a imported gun to make it a USA made guns and thus allowing the use of folding stocks etc However you could still import a semi auto AK or FAL etc with a thumb-hole stock and it would take normal mags.
They again EO the sporting clause banning rifles that held over 10 rounds of ammo or could take over 10 round mags. Killing off the SAR ak the Styer USR and others Around the same time you had the other ban which was a EO on China import guns. Banning any china com gun that was not a sporting shotgun or shotgun ammo.Thus killing off the 500 buck M1A and MAK90s etc Also to throw into all of this: 1. There was the Officer safety act that in a nutshell sates that if a handgun use a rifle round then said rifle ammo could not be AP. This lead to the downfall of steel core x39 and latter 7n6 2. A ban on imported barrels esp for AK etc. Thus why most current AK have USA barrels in them.
Thus a pre ban barrel AK kit will go for more 3. The current Russian Import ban 4. A earlier Russian ban that ban the import of SVD, Russian SKS and more And yes it is a mess to firg out the laws Why current imported AK etc have had issues the whole 922r mess and haveing mag wells hollowed out for normal mags. The difference between a a pre 1989 and current AK are major. For USA made guns like the AR for the most part all of this is not affecting it.
The only to note is Colt went PC for a long time before 1994 and thus the early 80 Colts with bayo lug and no sear block go for more But 1989 is why a China Com AK will sell for 1-2k now or more A pre 1968 FAL will hit 6-8 k as less then a 100 are legal now all c&r Hope this helps. I have a bayonet lug on my current AR15.
I had a pre-ban M1A that had the lug. I have a new M1A that does not have the lug. Nor have I noticed them on any of the new M1A models I've seen for sale. And there isn't a problem with bayo lugs here in PA.
Typically when you see a seller listing something as a 'pre-ban', it means they have the features that were disallowed when the Brady bill was passed in '93/'94 or whenever it was. A prominent/noticeable feature being the bayo lug. They just aren't as prominent as they once were in combat/sport type rifles. I *think* I've seen them on newer Colts maybe? Or maybe that was a LE model. Anyway, I agree, it's a selling point. Some guys, like recroom, really go for them though.
I would say they are more 'desirable'. I had a pre-ban M1A that had the lug. I have a new M1A that does not have the lug. Nor have I noticed them on any of the new M1A models I've seen for sale. And there isn't a problem with bayo lugs here in PA. Typically when you see a seller listing something as a 'pre-ban', it means they have the features that were disallowed when the Brady bill was passed in '93/'94 or whenever it was. A prominent/noticeable feature being the bayo lug.
They just aren't as prominent as they once were in combat/sport type rifles. I *think* I've seen them on newer Colts maybe? Or maybe that was a LE model.
Anyway, I agree, it's a selling point. Some guys, like recroom, really go for them though. I would say they are more 'desirable'. And again some Companies like Springfield simply never went back to Pre models. The org pre ban M1A were normal GI parts guns with a combo Bayo lug and Flash hidder yes they have added a flash hidder but not a lug On a AR etc I dont really go for pre ban AR unless a early colt as again no real difference other then where made. Like if say it is a Colt Canada model then yes I would buy it.Or a 1965 SP1 then yep or a org metal stock folder Carbine.
But your right most people think pre ban means pre 1994.Esp for mags etc for MA.